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Dark Pool Prices

August 20th, 2009, 2:04 am

Hi Folks,I have a couple of questions related to dark pools.1) Practically speaking, do the trades in dark pool impact displayed/open markets?2) Alternatively, do the prices in the open displayed market affect trading in the dark pools? At a very basic level, the dark pool orders are completely hidden in terms of price & size. So one would tend to assume that a dark pool will not be affected by short term price movements in the open market. Any ideas?GraciasDece
 
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Dark Pool Prices

August 20th, 2009, 6:32 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: DeceHi Folks,I have a couple of questions related to dark pools.1) Practically speaking, do the trades in dark pool impact displayed/open markets?2) Alternatively, do the prices in the open displayed market affect trading in the dark pools? At a very basic level, the dark pool orders are completely hidden in terms of price & size. So one would tend to assume that a dark pool will not be affected by short term price movements in the open market. Any ideas?GraciasDeceSee where the price discovery takes place, and you will have some 90% of the answer.
 
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Dark Pool Prices

August 21st, 2009, 5:37 pm

Sorry, if this question is too lame .. but how can one figure out where price discovery is happening?
 
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Dark Pool Prices

August 21st, 2009, 6:29 pm

See for example the ITG POSIT website. The oldest and most prominent dark pool. Also study microstructure books and papers.Apart from price discovery some more keywords for you: ECN, MTF, crossing network, hidden liquidity.
 
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Dark Pool Prices

August 21st, 2009, 6:30 pm

I have the same Qs.BTW: what is the size ratio of dark pool to the open market currently?
 
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Dark Pool Prices

August 22nd, 2009, 4:52 pm

Thanks for the pointers. Will check them out. Any books that you can recommend will be a good helping hand. I read a few chapters from Trading & Exchanges By Larry Harris but does not seem to be answering my questions.Thanks Again,Dece
 
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Dark Pool Prices

August 22nd, 2009, 4:53 pm

Hi WellBe,I do not remember the exact source but I think I read some where that around 10% of US Equity trade volume is in dark pools daily.
 
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August 22nd, 2009, 8:37 pm

You may find Hasbrouck's book a bit more helpful.
 
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August 22nd, 2009, 8:39 pm